Hola, gracias Miguel y demás compañeros por los correos y la información.
Miguel, no he tenido por el momento ninguna reacción de tipo Herx (4 dias de
tratamiento). habís leido algo sobre ello y estaba pensando que a los dos o tres
días
notaría algo, pero por ahora nada.
Estoy mas cansada que antes pero no se si es por los antibioticos (ya que tb
ahora estoy
mas liada con clases y trabajo). Lo que siento es la boca seca y pastosa y no
paro de beber
agua... pero esto no es nada del otro mundo claro (comparado con las épocas que
tengo
dolores musculares, fasciculaciones y demas). Asi que en general va bien.

Quería haceros una pregunta, he leido en la guia de Burrascano que es
conveniente no
comer o limitar los hidratos de carbono por el tema de la candida y hongos, pero
es muy
importante? yo ahora estoy sólo en 44.5 kg y si no como hidratos ni azucares me
da
miedo bajar más asi que no sé que hacer al respecto. ¿es corriente tener
problemas con la
candida en un tratamiento de 3 o 4 meses (en principio)?

Gracias,
Amaya

--- En lyme_y_otras_zoonosis_cronicas_espanol@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Ramírez
Ortega <ramirezortega@...> escribió:
>
> Hola Amaya,
> No sé si te habran hablado ya de las reacciones de tipo Jarich- Herxheimer
(Herx).
Espero llegar a tiempo.
> No ocurre siempre pero sé por experiencia que Iniciar un tratamiento tan
deseado y
encontrarte con esto puede ser lo más decepcionante que te ocurra en la vida.
> Yo fue cuando tomé conciencia de qué eran realmente las manifestaciones
neuropsiquiatricas del Lyme, y como realmente afectan a tu cabeza, hasta
entonces no
había sido consciente de ello.
>
>
> Esto es un fragmento del Dr. Burrascano de su: "ADVANCED TOPICS IN LYME
> DISEASE DIAGNOSTIC HINTS AND TREATMENT GUIDELINES FOR LYME AND OTHER TICK
> BORNE ILLNESSES"
> http://www.ilads.org/burrascano_1102.htm
> ..."Several days after the onset of appropriate antibiotic therapy, symptoms
> often flare due to lysis of the spirochetes with release of increased amount
> of antigenic material and possibly bacterial toxins. This is referred to as
> a Jarish Herxheimer-like reaction. Because it takes 48 to 72 hours of
> therapy to initiate bacterial killing, the Herxheimer reaction is therefore
> delayed. This is unlike syphilis, in which these reactions can occur within
> hours
>
> It has been observed that symptoms will flare in cycles every four weeks. It
> is thought that this reflects the organism's cell cycle, with the growth
> phase occurring once per month (intermittent growth is common in Borrelia
> species). As antibiotics will only kill bacteria during their growth phase,
> therapy is designed to bracket at least one whole generation cycle. This is
> why the minimum treatment duration should be at least four weeks. If the
> antibiotics are working, over time these flares will lessen in severity and
> duration. The very occurrence of ongoing monthly cycles indicates that
> living organisms are still present and that antibiotics should be continued.
>
> With treatment, these monthly symptom flares are exaggerated and presumably
> represent recurrent Herxheimer-like reactions as Bb enters its vulnerable
> growth phase then are lysed. For unknown reasons, the worst occurs at the
> fourth week of treatment. Observation suggest that the more severe this
> reaction, the higher the germ load, and the more ill the patient. In those
> with long-standing highly symptomatic disease who are on I.V. therapy, the
> week-four flare can be very severe, similar to a serum sickness reaction,
> and be associated with transient leucopenia and/or elevations in liver
> enzymes. If this happens, decrease the dose temporarily, or interrupt
> treatment for several days, then resume with a lower dose. If you are able
> to continue or resume therapy, then patients continue to improve. Those
> whose treatment is stopped and not restarted at this point usually will need
> retreatment in the future due to ongoing or recurrent symptoms because the
> infection was not eradicated..."
>
> Algunos links:
>
> Lyme Disease What is a Herxheimer Reaction
> http://www.x-l.net/Lyme/HERX.html
> Some Herx Info
> http://www.sky.net/~dporter/Seronegative_Lyme_or_CFS.txt
> Herxes (lots of links)
> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Oasis/6455/lyme-links.html#J-H
> Jarisch-Herxheimer / Jarisch-Herxheimer-like Reactions - Lyme Disease
> http://www.x-l.net/Lyme/abstracts/herx/herx.collection.html
> Response to "Is there a cycle w/ Lyme ?"
> http://www2.lymenet.org/domino/flash.nsf/3e157dfbb6c018d78525679f0001026
> 0/fce2f20cc566fec28525669b006a2a63?OpenDocument
> Evaluation of Symptom Log
> http://www.lymenet.de/symptoms/cycles/statistics.htm
> An Evaluation of Flare Cycles
> http://www.lymenet.de/symptoms/cycles/evalsum.htm
> Late Stage Lyme Disease,
> http://www.angelfire.com/me2/StarShar/Herx1.html
>
>
> http://www.fasthealth.com/dictionary/j/Jarisch-Herxheimer_reaction.php
>
> n : an increase in the symptoms of a spirochetal disease (as syphilis, Lyme
> disease, or relapsing fever) occurring in some persons when treatment with
> spirocheticidal drugs is started - called also Herxheimer reaction
>
> Jarisch, Adolf (1850-1902), Austrian dermatologist. Jarisch published his
> description of the Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction in 1895, seven years before
> Herxheimer published his own description.
>
> Herxheimer, Karl (1861-1944), German dermatologist. Herxheimer published his
> description of the Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction in 1902. In that same year he
> also described acrodermatitis chronica atrophicans.
>
> Published under license with Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. ©1997-2004.
>
> ===
>
> http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/3161.html
>
> A transient inflammatory reaction following treatment with Salvarsan,
> mercury, or antibiotics of early and later stages of syphilis. It is seen in
> 50% of patients with primary syphilis and about 90% of patients with
> secondary syphilis. Also seen in other diseases, such as borreliosis,
> brucellosis, typhoid fever, and trichinellosis. It is manifested by fever,
> chills, headache, myalgias, and exacerbation of cutaneous lesions. Duration
> is normally only a few hours. The intensity of the reaction reflects the
> intensity of inflammation present. Herxheimer observed his reaction on
> patients he had treated with mercury.
>
> ===
>
> http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/cache/2140798985.htm
>
> Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction
>
> The Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction describes the release of endotoxin when
> large numbers of organisms are killed by antibiotics. It is seen in 50% of
> patients with primary syphilis and about 90% of patients with secondary
> syphilis. It is not a dose related phenomenon; thus giving a smaller dose is
> of no value.
>
> It occurs about 8 hours after the first injection and usually consists of
> mild fever, malaise and headache lasting a few hours.
>
> Rarely, in quarternary syphilis, a severe reaction can occur, prednisolone
> is therefore given to reduce its effects. 30-40 mg /day is given in divided
> doses for 2-3 days before and after the first dose of antibiotics, reducing
> by 5mg/day thereafter.
>
> It can be seen in other conditions also, for example in the treatment of
> leptospirosis, tetracycline therapy in brucellosis, dapsone therapy in
> leprosy (Lepra reaction), antibiotic treatment of Lyme disease.
>
> Suerte con el tratamiento,
>
> Miguel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: agaztelu123
> To: lyme_y_otras_zoonosis_cronicas_espanol@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:54 PM
> Subject: [Lyme-E] Mi medica ha diccho que adelante!!
>
>
> Hola a todos, ayer fui a ver a mi medica y me dijo que tras leer la carta
del Dr O y
estudiar
> el caso, estaba de acuerdo en recetarme la doxiciclina y hacer el
seguimiento del
> tratamiento!!! la verdad es que en principio no me lo podia creer, pero aqui
tengo las
> recetas, tambien me ha recetado un protector para el estomago, y me ha dado
cita
para un
> analisis dentro de un mes para ver como van los niveles de todo lo normal en
el
> hemograma.
> Lo unico que queda es que alli en la consulta no se acordaba exactamente de
la dosis
> diaria aunque pensaba que eran 200mg al dia (yo no me acordaba tampoco), asi
que
tiene
> que ponerse en contacto conmigo, yo ya he visto que la dosis es 100mg tres
veces al
dia,
> pero bueno el caso es que empezare el tratamiento en cuanto tenga un momento
de ir
a la
> farmacia..
> Por un lado estoy muy contenta de al fin hacer algo (despues de 3 agnos),
pero
tambien
> tengo un poquillo de susto de tomar tanta pastilla. algun consejo de ultima
hora?
>
> Saludos, Amaya
>