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Varias personas han descubierto que el nuevo Intel Kernel que Apple
incluye con el DVD-kit para desarrolladores usa DMR TCPA/TPM. Más
específicamente, "una implementación TCPA/Palladium que usa un chip
Infineon 1.1 que prevendrá que algunas partes del Sistema Operativo
funcionen sin autorización"

Apple to add Trusted Computing to the new kernel?
People working with early versions of the forthcoming Intel-based
MacOS X operating system have discovered that Apple's new kernel
makes use of Intel's Trusted Computing hardware. If this "feature"
appears in a commercial, shipping version of Apple's OS, they'll lose
me as a customer -- I've used Apple computers since 1979 and have a
Mac tattooed on my right bicep, but this is a deal-breaker.

I travel in the kinds of circles where many people use GNU/Linux on
their computers -- and not only use it, but actually call it GNU/
Linux instead of just "Linux," in the fashion called for by Richard
Stallman. Some of these people give me grief over the fact that I use
Mac OS X instead of GNU/Linux on my Powerbook, because the MacOS is
proprietary.

I've been an Apple user since 1979. I've owned dozens -- probably
more than a hundred -- Macintoshes. When I worked in the private
sector, I used to write purchase orders for about a quarter-million
dollars' worth of Apple hardware every year. I've stuck with the
machines over the years because the fit-and-finish of the OS and the
generally kick-ass hardware made them the best choice for me. I've
converted innumerable people to the Mac (most recently I got my
grandmother's octogenarian boyfriend to pick up a Mac Mini, which he
loves). Hell, I even bought half a dozen Newtons over the years.

When my free software companions give me grief over this, I tell them
that I'm using an OS built on a free flavor of Unix, and that most of
the apps I use are likewise free -- such as Firefox, my terminal app,
etc.

Here's the important part though: when I use apps that aren't free,
like Apple's Mail.app, BBEdit, NetNewsWire, etc, I do so comfortable
in the fact that they save their data-files in free formats, open
file-formats that can be read by free or proprietary applications.
That means that I always retain the power to switch apps when I need
to. That means that if the vendor changes their policy in a way that
is incongruent with my needs, or if they go out of business, or if
they treat me badly, I can always go across the street to another
vendor, or to a free software project, and switch. This acts as a
check against abusive behavior on the vendors' part and it is, I
believe, partly responsible for the quality and pricing of their
offerings.

The Trusted Computing people say that they intend on Trusted
Computing being used to stop the unauthorized distribution of music,
but none of them has ever refuted the Darknet paper, where several of
Trusted Computing's inventors explain that Trusted Computing isn't
fit to this purpose.

The point of Trusted Computing is to make it hard -- impossible, if
you believe the snake-oil salesmen from the Trusted Computing world
-- to open a document in a player other than the one that wrote it in
the first place, unless the application vendor authorizes it. It's
like a blender that will only chop the food that Cuisinart says
you're allowed to chop. It's like a car that will only take the brand
of gas that Ford will let you fill it with. It's like a web-site that
you can only load in the browser that the author intended it to be
seen in.

What this means is that "open formats" is no longer meaningful. An
application can write documents in "open formats" but use Trusted
Computing to prevent competing applications from reading them. Apple
may never implement this in their own apps (though I'll be shocked
silly if it isn't used in iTunes and the DVD player), but Trusted
Computing in the kernel is like a rifle on the mantelpiece: if it's
present in act one, it'll go off by act three.

It means that the price of being a Mac user will be eternal
vigilance: you'll need to know that your apps not only write to
exportable formats, but that they also allow those exported files to
be read by competing apps. That they eschew those measures that would
lock you in and prevent you from giving your business to someone
else. I'm pretty sure that apps like BBEdit and NetNewsWire won't
lock me out, as their authors are personally known to me to be
wonderful, generous, honorable people. But personally familiarizing
yourself with the authors of all the software you use doesn't scale.

So that means that if Apple carries on down this path, I'm going to
exercise my market power and switch away, and, for the first time
since 1979, I won't use an Apple product as my main computer. I may
even have my tattoo removed.

My data is my life, and I won't keep it in a strongbox that someone
else has the keys for.

El 10/09/2005, a las 1:03, Antonio Escobar escribió:

> Ya te digo xD
>
> --- "Luchos ..." <icandel@...> escribió:
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>> ¿Que no?
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> http://www.macuarium.com/cms/macu/rumores/instalando-os-x-sobre-
> intel.html
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> http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?
> s=fff468cef0885493675f1777fc85bb7e&showforum=21
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>>> From: Antonio Escobar <maydrim@...>
>>> Reply-To: maquinitas@yahoogroups.com
>>> To: maquinitas@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: [Maquinitas] OS X en PC
>>> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 21:45:01 +0200 (CEST)
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>>> ... o qué?
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>>> --- "Luchos ..." <icandel@...> escribió:
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