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>Buenas:
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>Por fin está lista la recogida de firmas para contestar a
>Piqué por las declaraciones que hizo en la revista Science.
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>Podéis encontrar todo y firmar en:
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>http://www.fisfun.uned.es/~jbuceta/science/
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>POR FAVOR: difundid este mensaje entre los investigadores
>que conozcáis a lo largo y ancho del planeta.
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>Para ir abriendo boca os pego en texto:
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>RESPUESTA A LAS DECLARACIONES DEL MINISTRO
>(http://www.fisfun.uned.es/~jbuceta/science/)
>
>El Ministro Piqué ha realizado recientemente unas
> declaraciones en la revista Science (Science 2003, 299,
> 653) afirmando que actualmente el número de investigadores
> extranjeros en España es superior al de investigadores
> españoles en el
>extranjero.
>
>Algunos de nosotros tenemos serias dudas sobre la veracidad
> de esa información y hemos realizado un pequeño estudio
> que se va a materializar en forma de carta para la revista
> Science.
>
>A continuación figura la carta que vamos a mandar. Puesto
> que existen limitaciones de espacio (300 palabras)
> decidimos centrarnos en una de las partes más llamativas
> de sus declaraciones: el número de extranjeros
> investigando en España es mayor que el número de españoles
> investigando en el extranjero. Esto no quiere decir que
> sea la única parte de las declaraciones del Ministro que
> pensamos merece una crítica (gasto militar, investigación
> en ciencia básica, inversión desproporcionada en
> telecomunicaciones...).
>
>Si estas de acuerdo con la carta al final de este mensaje
> encontrarás un enlace para firmarla.
>
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>---------------- Science in Spain: How many are 'many
> more'?
>
>Josep Piqué, Spanish Minister of Science and Technology
> (MCyT), asserted recently in Science "now there are many
> more scientists from abroad working in Spain than there
> are Spanish scientists abroad" [1]. This statement raised
> doubts in the collective of Spanish scientists (both
> inside and outside the country borders). As scientists, we
> tried to verify that statement. We were unable to obtain
> any of those two global indicators from any Spanish
> official source (including MCyT and National Institute of
> Statistics). However, we gathered the following data:
>
>1) 1,822 research scholars from Spain worked at US
> universities during the 2001-2002 academic year, 6.8% more
> than the previous year [2]. Notice that this number does
> not include Ph.D. students nor researchers working at
> other profit and non-profit research institutions across
> the US.
>
>2) In 2001, 154 postdocs from Spain moved to other European
> countries through the Marie Curie fellowships program
> whereas only 39 European researchers moved to Spain. [3].
> Data from other international funding programs yielded a
> similar negative balance for Spain (table 1).
>
>3) Foreign researchers reportedly find it hard to get a
> position in Spain [4]. The phenomenon of inbreeding at
> Spanish Universities poses a barrier [5]. In this regard,
> the launching of the Ramon y Cajal (RyC) program in 2001
> is a positive initiative, and virtually the only open door
> for foreign scientists [6]. However, they only obtained
> 209 RyC positions out of 1300 in 2001 and 2002 [7]. In
> this period, 628 Spanish postdocs moved out of Spain
> supported by the Education Ministry, only one of many
> national funding agencies [8].
>
>These findings contradict Mr. Piqué's statement. We
> encourage Mr. Piqué to publish the data on which he relied
> for making such statements. His statement implies that the
> Spanish program to recapture scientists is satisfactory
> and that the "brain drain" is not a crucial problem in the
> scientific field. We consider that the reality is that
> present conditions are not adequate to reincorporate
> Spanish researchers nor to attract foreign ones. We also
> encourage Mr. Piqué and future MCyT ministers to establish
> a long-term scientific policy in Spain aimed at attracting
> high quality scientists, regardless of their country of
> origin.
>
>[1] X. Bosch, Science 299, 653 (2003).
>[2] Open Doors 2002, Institute of International Education
>(http://opendoors.iienetwork.org/)
>[3] Annual Report on Marie Curie Fellowships in FP5 (2001),
> European Commission.
>[4] S. Pickin, Nature 410, 627 (2001).
>[5] A. Navarro, and A. Rivero, Nature 410, 14 (2001).
>[6] X. Bosch, Nature 410, 1014 (2001); ibid 411, 556
> (2001). [7] Objectives and actuations in Science and
> Technology 2000-2002, Ministry of Science, Spain.
>[8] Spanish Oficial Bulletin (BOE), 21-6-01, 6-5-02,
> 1-6-02, 21.11.02, 28-11-02.
>[9] We thank Antoni Valero-Cabre (Harvard Medical School,
> Boston, USA) for his efforts on taking a census of the
> Spanish scientists working outside Spain
> (http://www.iespana.es/censoinvestigadoresextranjero).
>
>....................................................
>Table 1:
>
>Program
>Year(s)
> Total / Moving out from Spain / Moving into Spain
>
>Marie Curie
>2001
> 825 / 154 / 39
>
>2000
> 906 / 163 / 41
>
>1994-1998
> 3563 / 637 / 244
>
>EMBO
> 2001
> 147 / 15 / 0
>
>2000
> 155 / 13 / 3
>
>Humboldt Foundation
> 2001
> 588 - 144 * / 18 / 0
>
>Human Frontiers Science Program
> 2002
> 95 / 8 / 0
>
>2001
> 81 / 3 / 0
>
>
>*The Humboldt Foundation fellowships are intended for
> moving in and out of Germany. In 2001, 588 researchers
> were awarded one of these fellowships for moving into
> Germany and 144 German researchers for moving out. 18 of
> the 588 non-Germans were Spaniards (3%) and none of the
> 144 awarded Germans were heading to Spain (0%).
>
>Data obtained from:
>1. Annual report on Marie Curie Fellowships in the 5th
> Framework Programme (2000, 2001; The European Commision).
>2. STRATA-ETAN expert working group report on human
> resources in RTD (21-8-2002)
>3. EMBO Annual Reports.
>4. Annual Report 2001 (Alexander von Humboldt Foundation).
>5. Human Frontier Science Program.
>...........................................................
>........... Los autores de esta carta son:
>
>Cristina Muñoz-Pinedo (San Diego, USA)
>Miguel A. del Pozo (La Jolla, USA)
>Jose A. Gálvez (Irvine, USA)
>Eva M. Moreno (La Jolla, USA)
> Javier Buceta Fernández (La Jolla, USA)
> Marta García Sánchez (La Jolla, USA)
>Jose M Valdivielso (San Diego, USA)
>Elena Bascones (Zurich, Suiza)
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>----------------
>
>Esta carta, junto con el listado de firmas que hayamos
> recogido hasta entonces, se enviará a Science el lunes 3
> de marzo. Las firmas que lleguen con posterioridad se
> incorporarán a un segundo listado que se volverá a enviar
> a Science en caso de que la carta sea aceptada.
>
>NOTA: Science pide la dirección de e-mail de los autores.
> Esta dirección será visible en nuestro listado de firmas
> en la web.
>
>Si quieres firmar la carta, ve a:
>http://www.fisfun.uned.es/~jbuceta/science/ (información
> completa) o directamente al libro de firmas:
>http://two.guestbook.de/gb.cgi?gid=688939&prot=drlcxt
>
>El texto de la carta es definitivo y no admite cambios.
> Puede firmar la carta todo el científico que lo desee,
> español o no, independientemente de dónde trabaje.
>